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I hope they didn't pay a lot of money for that layout because it doesn't look professional at all. It looks like something you would see in mid to late 90s design. If you were to compare it to some of the other designs done by other major table top RPG companies it would not hold well.
It is missing a lot of the advanced design elements. Don't get me wrong. If this layout were applied to any of the amateur products that are on here it would be pretty good. Regrading your comment on entitlement. You can bet your sweet xxx. If I am paying for a product I definitely entitled to my opinion on it and what I want in the product. If they are bad comments roll with it and find the positive in the comment. If the comment is good enjoy it for a bit and then analysis it to see how you can improve.
Is anybody here, who are criticizing, actually paying for anything? Or are they just complaining that they refuse to pay for it? I disagree with your analysis of the layout and art. Certainly, if you are comparing Traveller products from the mid-late 90s, they were generally all black and white with a few inserted colour plates, and little layout work beyond text in columns. Go and have a look at T4 products of the time to make a comparison if you want. I find it entirely on a par with professional products I own from other companies.
I know this isn't your intention, but you are coming off as extremely defensive of this product and dismissive of the concerns of others. Someone can disagree with you and feel like this is overpriced without being "entitled". It's a simple act of comparison to other projects and a value judgment.
Other games with similar pricing also receive similar complaints. It is also perfectly valid to look at a charge like this for an update that is not a full revision and feel it is unfriendly to consumers. Mongoose has a history that provides context for these opinions, and not all of it is positive.
I have a lot of Mongoose and older traveller on my shelves and I don't regret purchasing any of them, but I am aware of many errata issues. Put it this way, if people feel free to discuss negatively on a product in the associated thread, then why should they feel hostile when somebody disagrees with them in turn? Sorry, but it is. Like I say, who is it here that is actually a paying customer that is complaining about it? Previous Mongoose publishings did have errors and lower production standards, admittedly, and people rightly complained about them.
However, what we have here is a product with changes that were literally made in response to customer feedback, and people are complaining about it still. Hey, I'm not entitled. I'm just simply pointing out to Mongoose that this is a XXX business practice. If you love 'em, great! I'm sure they are happy to have you as a fan. I just find this approach absurd. Note that I haven't minded thus far paying premium prices for cool books in the new series.
I do like the new rules, the artwork, the layout I CAN go support other games. I can take my money elsewhere. But Mongoose popped this book up for sale AND it came across my news feed "as the new hotness" so I'm fortunate to have so many options for my RPG budget. So, I'll take those dollars elsewhere. Frankly, I don't care how you feel about it. Good luck Rory. Rory, I have paid for Mongoose Traveller 1 and 2 books. Speaking as a purchaser, I think Mongoose's books are overpriced, especially the digital versions.
I am comparing them to past and present Traveller-esque gaming publications. New and shiny do not necessarily imply "better". I, too, enjoy a well produced publication. Flashy art and layout do not necessarily make a better book, unless one's criteria for "better" is flashy art and layout. I own many well-produced rpg books that do not depend upon flashy art and layout. I am a paying customer who is complaining about it. You, Rory, are the only person in this thread who appears to be hostile.
Live and let live, man. You did paying too much for books. Some of us don't. Some of us wish Mongoose adopted a more reasonable priced point for their digital products. You don't. So be it. Happy gaming! No worries. Why non-purchasers choose to leave commentary is beyond me, though. See All Ratings and Reviews. Browse Categories. Wolfenoot Sale. Rule System. Apocalypse World Engine. BRP Basic Roleplaying. Modiphius 2d Savage Worlds.
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